This is a test of GDPR / Cookie Acceptance [about our cookies]
Really irritating test - cookie expires in 24 hour!
Champion Reflections
14.5.2025 (Wednesday) 19:40 - All running AOK
 
Re: Champion Reflections
Posted by PhilWakely at 22:38, 13th May 2025
 
The return from Plymouth started 40 minutes late after being held up by control who, we were told, were concerned that if we departed on time, there was a risk of delaying scheduled services because of the time it would take to "cross onto the South Devon Railway at Totnes".  If this really is what was the cause, it's the biggest load of hookum I've heard in a long time.

Sort of true! The timing of the tour meant that departure from Totnes and crossover to the branch was just 3 minutes after the last scheduled SDR service of the day, so there would have been a possibility of blocking the main line until the scheduled SDR service had cleared Staverton. Also, that scheduled SDR service was timed to take 30 minutes to get to Buckfastleigh, but the tour only 20 minutes - so something had to give.

Re: Champion Reflections
Posted by GBM at 15:33, 13th May 2025
 
I was on-board this train, treating myself to an early 70th birthday present with my wife, Pullman Class from Warwick Parkway

Absolutely excellent day out.  Five stars. Would recommend. * * * * *


Many thanks for that lovely description.
Sorely tempted.

Re: Champion Reflections
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:56, 13th May 2025
 
As a footnote to the lengthy post above

I was surprised by how many times the lineside vegetation made contact with our train.  In very many places on the main line there was quite a rattling as uncontrolled lineside trees and shrubs were brushed aside by the train.  A couple of times our table gained an extra decoration of stick and leaves, entering through the open ventilator window

I guess it cost slightly less to pay consultants to tell you the lineside does not need to be trimmed back than it costs to actually do the job and to show the world that routine detail maintenance is not ignored

Re: Champion Reflections
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:06, 13th May 2025
 
I was on-board this train, treating myself to an early 70th birthday present with my wife, Pullman Class from Warwick Parkway

Absolutely excellent day out.  Five stars. Would recommend. * * * * *

Ten minutes late from Birmingham New Street didn't bode well (Held up by late-running West Midlands Railway services that were prioritised by control).  According to RealTime Trains the service was timed for a maximum speed of 75mph, but D1015 obviously hadn't read that bit.  It was a wonderful wallow in nostalgia to be Western hauled at 90mph (the loco's maximum permitted speed) where the line allowed it through Oxfordshire, Wiltshire, Somerset and Devon.

Whizzing through Taunton at 80 mph was a thrill I'd not experienced before, so that was fun

The on-board experience in the Vintage Trains Pullman was great.  Good food, and a level of comfort that really did put modern trains to shame (apart from on the too numerous stretches of rough-riding road)   It was a shame that the car's exterior hadn't been cleaned lately, which did mar the view of the fantastic sunlit countryside and the sea-wall section

The Class 37 was detached at Bristol Temple Meads, and followed the passenger train closely down to Plymouth.  Meaning D1015 single-handedly dragged the 9-coach train up Whiteball and the South Devon banks on her own.  Made a champion job of it - just as you'd expect, although I did overhear stewards from the train after arrival at Plymouth say that one of the Maybach pair shut itself down temporarily in the attack on Whiteball.  Which might explain the 30mph as we entered the tunnel

There was a melee at Plymouth, with every man and his dog jostling for position to take a picture of the loco after arrival.  There was some unpleasantness from a couple of the "enthusiast" passengers who wanted the D1015 group to get out of the way so a perfect picture could be taken.  But the D1015 folks quite justifiably wanted a group photo to remember the successful run.  It very nearly came to blows between the photographer trying to get the group shot and one of the assembled gaggle of gricers.  Very unpleasant.  In 55 years of both professional and hobby railwaying, I'd not witnessed anything like it.

The sea-wall section provided a great thrill, of course.  Many heads were turned by those on the beach and on the footpath.  Lineside photographers were out in force.  The weather was perfect.

The return from Plymouth started 40 minutes late after being held up by control who, we were told, were concerned that if we departed on time, there was a risk of delaying scheduled services because of the time it would take to "cross onto the South Devon Railway at Totnes".  If this really is what was the cause, it's the biggest load of hookum I've heard in a long time.

So, arrival at Buckfastleigh was some 40 minutes later than timetabled, cutting time down there considerably.  This situation was worsened when (after most passengers had detrained and were on the station, in the shop, off to visit the loco department, or wherever) the organisers decided it would be necessary to depart ten minutes early, so as not to run the risk of being late back at Totnes Riverside awaiting re-entry onto NR metals.  A shopful of probable buyers had to leave the shop empty handed

The train had been turned at Laira, so we were sitting on the landward side at Teignmouth, but by the time we'd again whizzed through Taunton, we were on the seaward side as we crossed the Somerset levels at sunset.  Something this former resident of Bridgwater found to be completely magical

We arrived at Bristol temple Meads early, only to set-down, but were held awaiting right time before departure.  Darkeness had fallen, but it was another journey in nostalgia to be moving along in the dark at 90

We were back at Warwick Parkway bang on time.  Standing and hearing Western Champion pull the coaches and trailing loco away with the taps fully open and off into the night was a spine tingling experience.  At Witham, I'd hear a D1000 at full chat shooting past, or pulling away with a stone train, maybe 20 times a shift.  I'd forgotten quite how emotional that sound is




Re: Champion Reflections
Posted by GBM at 10:30, 11th May 2025
 
Marvellous photos Phil,for which many thanks.
Champion is looking great and sounding marvellous,one slight concern was early on in the day she was dispensing large quantities of white smoke,from both exhausts ,enough to put the Chimney in Rome to shame !
However once fully warmed up and having been allowed to stretch her legs a bit normal service was restored and the usual mid grey Clag returned,hope to ride behind again before much longer.
Any chance of reflective tour washup please  Western Pathfinder?
Would be interested to know your thoughts - too long/too expensive/etc.........

Re: Champion Reflections
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 08:29, 11th May 2025
 
Marvellous photos Phil,for which many thanks.
Champion is looking great and sounding marvellous,one slight concern was early on in the day she was dispensing large quantities of white smoke,from both exhausts ,enough to put the Chimney in Rome to shame !
However once fully warmed up and having been allowed to stretch her legs a bit normal service was restored and the usual mid grey Clag returned,hope to ride behind again before much longer.

Re: Champion Reflections
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:26, 10th May 2025
 
Thank you for those excellent 'reflections', PhilWakely. 


Champion Reflections
Posted by PhilWakely at 23:06, 10th May 2025
 
Vintage Trains ran the 'South Devon Explorer' railtour from Birmingham New Street to Plymouth via Banbury, Bath and Bristol on Saturday, 10th May 2025. The tour was headed throughout by an immaculately turned out Class 52, D1015 'Western Champion'. The return leg had a brief diversion up the South Devon Railway to Buckfastleigh and was assisted from the rear by Class 37, 37240. Weather conditions for photography were perfect.

I photted the outward leg of the tour at Ellerhayes Bridge, between Cullompton and Exeter; the South Devon Railway deviation at Dartington; and finally at Gibraltar Bridge, Cullompton.

As you would expect, photters were out in their numbers! I would have liked a wider angle shot of the tour by the River Dart, but any wider than this would have resulted in a swarm of cameras and photters in the image!










 
The Coffee Shop forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western). The views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit https://www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site at admin@railcustomer.info if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules. Our full legal statment is at https://www.greatwesternrailway.info/legal.html

Although we are planning ahead, we don't know what the future will bring here in the Coffee Shop. We have domains "firstgreatwestern.info" for w-a-y back and also "greatwesternrailway.info"; we can also answer to "greatbritishrailways.info" too. For the future, information about Great Brisish Railways, by customers and for customers.
 
Current Running
GWR trains from JourneyCheck
 
 
Code Updated 11th January 2025