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[OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall
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Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:07, 12th June 2024
 
Thank you both for your detailed information. 


Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall
Posted by Electric train at 18:01, 12th June 2024
 
Thank you for that information, Electric train. 

What is the level of alcohol tested against: is it 'zero', or any lower level than the legal limit for driving road vehicles, for example?

I'm asking genuinely out of professional interest.

29 mil g per 100ml of blood, 13 micro g per 100ml of breath, as Oxonchurch says there is no zero

Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall
Posted by Oxonhutch at 22:33, 11th June 2024
 
is it 'zero'

There is no zero for ethanol in the human body. It is a metabolite of non-drinking people.

Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:11, 11th June 2024
 
Thank you for that information, Electric train. 

What is the level of alcohol tested against: is it 'zero', or any lower level than the legal limit for driving road vehicles, for example?

I'm asking genuinely out of professional interest.

Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall
Posted by Electric train at 18:27, 11th June 2024
 
And as for drunken driving ! The last fatal rail accident caused by the driver drinking was IIRC over 50 years ago (Hither green) Happens all the time on the roads.

Hither Green in 1967 was a broken rail. Eltham Well Hall in 1972 was a drunk train driver.


52 years to the day since the Eltham Well Hall "accident" and I have, after thought, added this thread to the "historic" board as something that would not happen today.   But a reminder of the need for systems to be in place to be vigilant, jut in case a safety-critical member of staff (or one who can endanger safety) goes - err - off the rails.

Despite the well published policy on random D&A testing, which takes place across offices, depots, control centres, work sit access etc. post incident testing, the pre employment D&A testing and the regular testing at medicals; there are still people testing positive.

Having said that the number is extremely low, there are not many industries that have the legal requirement to conduct regular random D&A testing

Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall
Posted by broadgage at 13:53, 11th June 2024
 
Yes, thanks for the correction, for some reason I had confused Hither Green and Eltham Well hall.
AFAIK, that was the last accident caused by a drunk train driver, most unlikely to happen today, but can not be absolutely ruled out.

Re: [OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:45, 11th June 2024
 
Details are available on Wikipedia, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eltham_Well_Hall_rail_crash

[OTD] 11th June 1972 - Eltham Well Hall
Posted by grahame at 08:38, 11th June 2024
 
And as for drunken driving ! The last fatal rail accident caused by the driver drinking was IIRC over 50 years ago (Hither green) Happens all the time on the roads.

Hither Green in 1967 was a broken rail. Eltham Well Hall in 1972 was a drunk train driver.


52 years to the day since the Eltham Well Hall "accident" and I have, after thought, added this thread to the "historic" board as something that would not happen today.   But a reminder of the need for systems to be in place to be vigilant, jut in case a safety-critical member of staff (or one who can endanger safety) goes - err - off the rails.

 
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