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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
 
Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by ChrisB at 10:08, 26th January 2026
 
More torrential rain for Cornwall and Devon tomorrow and Tuesday, also into next week.
Less windy, that said.

Hmmm. Forecast this morning was for more gale-force winds, maybe from a slightly different direction though.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Mark A at 10:00, 26th January 2026
 
That installation needed to have been designed by a nautical architect.

Me: not experienced as a nautical architect, but aware that, say, farm animals, in poor weather, do not by choice stand facing the prevailing wind: wishing I'd had more input into the design than just the opportunity given (and taken) to comment on the planning application.

Mark

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:10, 25th January 2026
 
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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by grahame at 18:39, 25th January 2026
 
Thoughts and prayers for Dawlish Station's relatively new lifts today and this evening.

Mark

Dawlish: Lifts out of order

The lifts will be out of order between platform 2 and the car park from now until further notice at Dawlish station.
Last Updated:25/01/2026 16:02

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by johnneyw at 17:19, 25th January 2026
 
Well, reopening of the line through Dawlish may have taken a big knock. 

A sinkhole has been discovered on the section between Parsons Tunnel and Teignmouth with possible voiding. 

Ouch, that is not good.

It might be this one, reported in the local news:

Gaping hole appears on Teignmouth seafront after Storm Ingrid - Devon Live https://share.google/PdfE1h4nAYaHKSOxc

If so, then it looks like it's not an immediate threat to the line.


Edit:  There's pictures of the damage from the seaward side taken at low tide on the "Railways of Devon and Cornwall" Facebook pages.



Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Mark A at 12:59, 25th January 2026
 
The BGS borehole map has a couple of GWR-origin boreholes to be found inland from Dawlish. It also has several for the proposed second route to Looe.

Mark

https://mapapps2.bgs.ac.uk/geoindex/home.html?layer=BGSBoreholes

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by John D at 11:28, 25th January 2026
 
The line is so low lying and close to the sea it is always going to be vulnerable to storms.

There was an inland deviation route, considered, which got Parliamentary approval (see attached link of Great Western Railway (Additional powers) Act 1936.   My understanding is work actually started on the construction in 1939, but the outbreak of war halted it, and never recommenced.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/Geo5and1Edw8/26/101/contents/enacted.

The 1936 also has the powers for alternative line to Looe to avoid the difficult to work (and prone to flooding) existing line

Descriptions of the routes in the Act and appendices, although deposited plans must be separate



Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:50, 25th January 2026
 
The line is open to long distance trains, with all services using the reversible Up line between Dawlish Warren and Teignmouth. No rail services calling at stations between Exeter St David's and Newton Abbot - these are being served by rail replacement buses.

Impressive given the battering it took.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by PhilWakely at 10:36, 25th January 2026
 
Pushed out till 1600 tomorrow

Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Newton Abbot
Due to severe weather earlier between Exeter St Davids and Newton Abbot:

Train services running through these stations will be cancelled or suspended. Disruption is expected until 16:00 25/01.

......wouldn't be surprised if there are further extensions?

The line is open to long distance trains, with all services using the reversible Up line between Dawlish Warren and Teignmouth. No rail services calling at stations between Exeter St David's and Newton Abbot - these are being served by rail replacement buses.

A points failure at the west end of St David's station did not help between 08:00 and 10:15!

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by GBM at 08:12, 25th January 2026
 
More torrential rain for Cornwall and Devon tomorrow and Tuesday, also into next week.
Less windy, that said.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:11, 24th January 2026
 
Pushed out till 1600 tomorrow

Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Newton Abbot
Due to severe weather earlier between Exeter St Davids and Newton Abbot:

Train services running through these stations will be cancelled or suspended. Disruption is expected until 16:00 25/01.

......wouldn't be surprised if there are further extensions?

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:13, 24th January 2026
 
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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by JayMac at 17:44, 24th January 2026
 
A sinkhole has been discovered on the section between Parsons Tunnel and Teignmouth with possible voiding. 

You can almost see the thought bubble above his helmet...

Something like this?

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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Oxonhutch at 17:23, 24th January 2026
 
Well, reopening of the line through Dawlish may have taken a big knock. 

A sinkhole has been discovered on the section between Parsons Tunnel and Teignmouth with possible voiding. 

Ouch, that is not good.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by a-driver at 17:18, 24th January 2026
 
Well, reopening of the line through Dawlish may have taken a big knock. 

A sinkhole has been discovered on the section between Parsons Tunnel and Teignmouth with possible voiding. 

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by TonyK at 16:17, 24th January 2026
 

Oh, and spare a thought for this Network Rail worker:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HASxXofpJ/

Never mind the Orange Army. This is the Orange Navy in action!

The BBC news article has now been updated again.

With my thanks to the BBC, I will quote here a few items:



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"You can't park there, mate."

You can almost see the thought bubble above his helmet:

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One would hope that's nothing like as bad as it looks, and that the main sea wall has done its duty. It was built for those 1-in-100-years storms that we now seem to get more than once a year.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:11, 24th January 2026
 
You can almost see the thought bubble above his helmet:

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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by a-driver at 15:42, 24th January 2026
 

I wonder if we'd have been talking about 2014 levels of damage had the resiliance works not been undertaken?

Dawlish itself seems to have escaped major flooding as had occurred prior to the resilience works and when you see videos of waves crashing against the new seawall you can see it working as designed

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by ChrisB at 15:05, 24th January 2026
 
....and
Great Western Railway (GWR) said the sea wall at Dawlish would be inspected once the storm had passed and services would be suspended until at least 18:00 GMT.

Rail services have also been cancelled between Par and Newquay and Liskeard and Looe due to flooding.

GWR spokesman James Davis said: "There's been a significant amount of debris that the sea has thrown onto the track that will need to be cleared before we can run trains safely.

"The line remains closed and we have a limited bus replacement service operating.

"Clearly, if the same number of people choose to travel as normal you're going to find yourself waiting quite some time."

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:49, 24th January 2026
 
The BBC news article has now been updated again.

With my thanks to the BBC, I will quote here a few items:

Video clip of Teignmouth Grand Pier being washed away - click on the link here to view;

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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:38, 24th January 2026
 
The BBC news item has been updated to include this image:

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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:21, 24th January 2026
 
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Sometimes you just have to admit that mother nature has won this battle. 

I wonder if we'd have been talking about 2014 levels of damage had the resiliance works not been undertaken?

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:41, 24th January 2026
 
From the BBC:

Storm Ingrid: Part of historic Teignmouth pier washes away in 'wild' storm

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Part of Teignmouth Grand Pier has washed away in the storm

Part of a historic pier has washed away as Storm Ingrid brings heavy rain and strong winds to Devon and Cornwall.

Teignmouth mayor Cate Williams said the town had "taken a real battering" overnight into Saturday with "just wild" waves damaging part of the Teignmouth Grand Pier.

A Met Office yellow warning for rain is in place until 22:00 GMT and the Environment Agency said flood warnings were in place across the south Devon and south Cornwall coasts.

Great Western Railway said the line between Exeter St Davids and Plymouth would remain shut until at least 14:00 because a "significant amount of debris" was on the track at Dawlish due to waves breaching the sea wall.

Teignmouth's mayor said it was "sad" to see part of the resort's pier, which opened in 1867, washed away. "It has lost part of the pier structure itself, that has dissolved and gone away into the sea," she said. "It's an old pier and it was needing some attention and I suppose age and wear and tear has taken its toll. It has survived many weather conditions as well as world wars. It's sad when you look at it now to see some of it now missing."

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A tree fell down in Heavitree Park in Exeter during high winds

Trees have also come down across the region, with one blocking both lanes of the A377 near Lapford, Devon County Council said.

Cornwall Council warned trees might still be weak or unstable following Storm Goretti.

Meanwhile, Network Rail issued a black alert, its highest warning, as 12ft (4m) waves hit the sea wall at Dawlish. It is only the second time a black alert has been issued since a storm destroyed sections of the track around Dawlish in February 2014.

Rail services have also been cancelled between Par and Newquay and Liskeard and Looe due to flooding.

GWR said the sea wall at Dawlish would be inspected once the storm had passed. The firm advised passengers to avoid rail travel until later with tickets remaining valid on Sunday.

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Waves overtopped the sea wall at Penzance on Friday

GWR spokesman James Davis said: "There's been a significant amount of debris that the sea has thrown onto the track that will need to be cleared before we can run trains safely. The line remains closed and we have a limited bus replacement service operating. Clearly, if the same number of people choose to travel as normal you're going to find yourself waiting quite some time."


Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by JayMac at 10:35, 24th January 2026
 
Many less informed people on social media complain that it's modern trains' inability to cope with a spray of seawater being the reason trains are on stop. That is a concern, but the main reason is passenger (and staff) safety.

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Oh, and spare a thought for this Network Rail worker:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HASxXofpJ/

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by a-driver at 10:33, 24th January 2026
 
Reading elsewhere suggestions that it's the line-side wall separating the railway from the coast path rather than the sea wall itself but yes, I would imagine it will slow the reopening somewhat?

The picture shows which part of the wall has been damaged.  I only define it as part of the seawall purely because without it the track bed would continually be washed away or flooded.   

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:21, 24th January 2026
 
Reading elsewhere suggestions that it's the line-side wall separating the railway from the coast path rather than the sea wall itself but yes, I would imagine it will slow the reopening somewhat?

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:17, 24th January 2026
 
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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by a-driver at 09:47, 24th January 2026
 
Part of the seawall has been knocked over onto the down main. 

I can't see it opening today,  from Coast Cams there's still waves crashing over and the line through the Dawlish station appears to be flooded

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by bradshaw at 08:36, 24th January 2026
 
Overnight at West Bay the waves were consistently 5 m and peaking at over 8 metres for a few hours. Winds gusting to 40 knots

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by PhilWakely at 22:41, 23rd January 2026
 
We are struggling to source any replacement road transport - we have fully exhausted the south of England for vehicles for tonight

As well as local coaches from Greenslades, at least one double decker from the Crawley area was in operation at Newton Abbot!

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:46, 23rd January 2026
 
Sea: 1, train carriage window: 0.

Water with high energy has the ability to entrain remarkably large lumps of stone.

Those boulders in a babbling brook moved only once in a two hundred, or so, year event.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:02, 23rd January 2026
 
Bit further West, but basically folks......you're on your own.....

Cancellations to services between Plymouth and Penzance

Due to flooding between Plymouth and Penzance all lines are blocked.
Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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Muliple severe weather incidents have blocked the line in multiple places.
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What are we doing about it?
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Very few trains if any will run

We are struggling to source any replacement road transport - we have fully exhausted the south of England for vehicles for tonight

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Mark A at 20:55, 23rd January 2026

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:49, 23rd January 2026
 
It's probably rather academic here, as we already have our own Coffee Shop forum news correspondents out there on the ground, so to speak, but here's the view from the BBC:

Storm Ingrid: Trains cancelled in black alert over storm threat

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A new sea wall was built at Dawlish after the track was destroyed in 2014

Rail passengers are facing a service shutdown on the south coast due to heavy rain and strong winds caused by Storm Ingrid.

Network Rail issued a black alert, the highest warning from 20:30 to 22:30 GMT on Friday, with 12ft (4m) waves expected to hit the sea wall at Dawlish and gusts of up to 60mph (96km/h) expected. It is only the second time a black alert has been issued since a storm destroyed sections of the track around Dawlish in February 2014.

Great Western Railway (GWR) said the line between Exeter St Davids and Newton Abbot would shut between 20:30 on Friday and 14:00 on Saturday, due to "significant risk" of sea water breaching the Dawlish sea wall.

Chris Fuoco, Devon and Cornwall director of Network Rail, said it was "the first time we've had our highest alert" since 2014. He added: "We are just taking every safety precaution we can to make sure everyone is safe. High tide tomorrow is a problem, as well, so we will inspect the line tomorrow before we can reopen it. Mother nature can do some dangerous things to the railway so we have to stay on top of that."

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In Paignton, Torbay, waves crash against the sea wall

A new sea wall was built in Dawlish at a cost of about £80m after the storm in 2014 left the track dangling in the air.

GWR said: "Predicted heavy and persistent rain in the south west, combined with gusts of up to 60mph in coastal areas during high tide, represents a significant risk of sea water breaching the Dawlish sea wall, and debris on the railway."

Train services would run between London Paddington and Exeter St Davids, and Newton Abbot towards Penzance, said GWR. It added replacement coaches were on standby.

(BBC news article continues)


Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Red Squirrel at 20:32, 23rd January 2026
 
I was planning to visit Newquay tomorrow... hey ho.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by PhilWakely at 20:06, 23rd January 2026
 
At Newton Abbot now. It was lively, but could have been a lot worse!

Newton Abbot at 6.45pm - blowing a hoolie and RRBs beginning to turn up.  No fault whatsoever to the coordinators and platform staff, but following the unexpected arrival of a RRB from Exeter depositing pax for Plymouth and beyond, the initial advice for those was to 'go back to Exeter, get the train to TVP and then the 'fast coach to Plymouth'!

Thankfully, another empty RRB turned up for a 7.30pm departure for Totnes and Plymouth!

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by CyclingSid at 18:42, 23rd January 2026
 
In addition to the tide heights, wave heights https://wavenet.cefas.co.uk/details/229/EXT

The graph data compares Observed to Forecast.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Mark A at 17:53, 23rd January 2026
 
Tide heights along the south west coast, in the last day or so, are overachieving.

Mark

https://ntslf.org/tides/uk-network

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by TonyK at 17:03, 23rd January 2026
 
I'm at home, 3 miles from Tiverton Parkway, and the wind has definitely picked up in the past few minutes from its earlier "rather bad". If I had to go to Torquay today, I would drive. Or more likely leave it.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by stuving at 15:40, 23rd January 2026
 
"Permanent" struggling with the heavy lifting that was assigned to it.

Yes, I too originally thought that 'permanent resiliance' meant the line being able to stay open, but it has been made clear that it meant that it was to make it resiliant to major damage leading to lengthy closures like we saw in 2014.

Temporary closure, in extreme weather like today, will still happen from time to time although the better protection should mean it doesn't happen so often.  Though to counter that the IET/Voyager fleet's own resiliance is poor as we know due to the roof mounted resistors.

The 'permanent resiliance' is about much more than just the immediate sea wall around Dawlish, with cliff strengthening works and a rock fall shelter to reduce the risk of and danger from landslip/cliff collapse.
BBC news are quoting GWR as saying:
"Predicted heavy and persistent rain in the south west, combined with gusts of up to 60mph in coastal areas during high tide, represents a significant risk of sea water breaching the Dawlish sea wall, and debris on the railway," it said.

I hope that's not literally true - "breaching" always means making a hole in, which ought not to happen now. So I guess it's someone picking the wrong word, and meaning that some waves will cross the wall and end up on the track.

My understanding of damage mechanism (and I can't locate a source for this) is that, even with the new sea wall, waves toss a lot of water up above the top of the wall. There the wind can hit it hard enough to push it onto the track (and station, and any trains) with some force - like a tennis serve. The weight of water is enough to tear off bits of structures (such as the station) and throw it on the track. The track can also suffer, mainly by ballast being washed out of place.

The waves carry a lot of the beach with them, and this solid stuff can also get thrown at things. That I think is how trains lose windows, more than just the weight of water. I even wonder if the new sea wall, shaped to turn the arriving waves around rather than block them, may not allow more shingle and rocks to be carried with the wave and pushed into the air.

Obviously the amount of serious damage depends critically on the strength of the wind and waves, as well as many other details (directions, timing, etc). So it's hard to judge where Ingrid will come on such a scale.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:42, 23rd January 2026
 
Not good in salt water!

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:14, 23rd January 2026
 
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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:12, 23rd January 2026
 
At Newton Abbot now. It was lively, but could have been a lot worse!

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Red Squirrel at 13:27, 23rd January 2026
 
Hmm, heading for Falmouth today from Bristol. I'll let you know how I get on!

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by ChrisB at 13:11, 23rd January 2026
 
Line closed until AT LEAST 1400 tomorrow afternoon (allwing time for daylight inspection) - according to GWR on X

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:09, 23rd January 2026
 
The voyager 8 cars has now gone through nonstop on the down line. Maybe it's up to the discretion of the drivers?

That's a good point: is there any discretion for the train driver in the cab to look at the situation realtime and say, 'I'm not driving my train into that'?


No. 

'No'...unless of course the driver can see something ahead that will affect the safety of their train such as washed away track or a landslide...and react in time to stop the train!

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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by IndustryInsider at 13:01, 23rd January 2026
 
The voyager 8 cars has now gone through nonstop on the down line. Maybe it's up to the discretion of the drivers?

That's a good point: is there any discretion for the train driver in the cab to look at the situation realtime and say, 'I'm not driving my train into that'?


No. 

'No'...unless of course the driver can see something ahead that will affect the safety of their train such as washed away track or a landslide...and react in time to stop the train!

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by a-driver at 12:56, 23rd January 2026
 
The voyager 8 cars has now gone through nonstop on the down line. Maybe it's up to the discretion of the drivers?

That's a good point: is there any discretion for the train driver in the cab to look at the situation realtime and say, 'I'm not driving my train into that'?


No. 

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:55, 23rd January 2026
 
The voyager 8 cars has now gone through nonstop on the down line. Maybe it's up to the discretion of the drivers?

That's a good point: is there any discretion for the train driver in the cab to look at the situation realtime and say, 'I'm not driving my train into that'?

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by a-driver at 12:11, 23rd January 2026
 
2T12 0924 Exmouth to Paignton has reportedly lost two bodyside windows, one reported as “completely gone”

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Mark A at 11:38, 23rd January 2026
 
Thoughts and prayers for Dawlish Station's relatively new lifts today and this evening.

Mark

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:14, 23rd January 2026
 
"Permanent" struggling with the heavy lifting that was assigned to it.

Yes, I too originally thought that 'permanent resiliance' meant the line being able to stay open, but it has been made clear that it meant that it was to make it resiliant to major damage leading to lengthy closures like we saw in 2014.

Temporary closure, in extreme weather like today, will still happen from time to time although the better protection should mean it doesn't happen so often.  Though to counter that the IET/Voyager fleet's own resiliance is poor as we know due to the roof mounted resistors.

The 'permanent resiliance' is about much more than just the immediate sea wall around Dawlish, with cliff strengthening works and a rock fall shelter to reduce the risk of and danger from landslip/cliff collapse.

More information here:
https://www.railfuture.org.uk/Dawlish
https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/network-rail-looks-to-the-next-stages-of-south-devon-railway-resilience-as-rockfall-shelter-is-completed
https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/passengers-in-the-south-west-to-benefit-from-more-reliable-railway-as-cliff-resilience-milestone-is-completed

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by REVUpminster at 11:00, 23rd January 2026
 
10.59. Just watched an IET hurtle through Dawlish on the down line. It didn't stop! Got a good soaking. The following local turbo stopped.


11.12 An IET going on the up line doing 2C18 leaving a voyager in the centre roads at Dawlish Warren.

It's good watching them on coastcams and  it's free with occasional local ads.

The voyager 8 cars has now gone through nonstop on the down line. Maybe it's up to the discretion of the drivers?

The Wolverton 175 is ready to leave so should be at Dawlish at 17.38 but is often early. the 175/s has left Wolverton 11 early

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by bobm at 09:43, 23rd January 2026
 
Single line working implemented after debris reported on the Down line at Dawlish.   Currently three eastbound trains queuing outside Teignmouth waiting for a west bound train to come through.   Another three waiting at Dawlish Warren to head west.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by a-driver at 09:04, 23rd January 2026
 
The local trains don't seem to be cancelled and what does it mean for the 175 stock move from Wolverton this afternoon?


It’s a full line closure from 20:30 this evening.

IETs and Voyagers will not be permitted to run through Dawlish from 18:30

It’s a black warning on the seawall. Only a handful of these issued in the past, once being then the seawall collapsed. Expecting waves of around 14ft.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:39, 23rd January 2026
 
Yes full line closure this evening, last through service Paddinton to Penzance is the 1503, after this buses from Tiverton Parkway to Plymouth provided. Sleepers are cancelled.

"Permanent" struggling with the heavy lifting that was assigned to it.

At least GWR have been proactive this time and put alternatives in place rather than leaving people stranded.

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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by REVUpminster at 07:15, 23rd January 2026
 
The local trains don't seem to be cancelled and what does it mean for the 175 stock move from Wolverton this afternoon?

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Sleepy at 06:19, 23rd January 2026
 
Yes full line closure this evening, last through service Paddinton to Penzance is the 1503, after this buses from Tiverton Parkway to Plymouth provided. Sleepers are cancelled.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by a-driver at 20:08, 22nd January 2026
 
It happened yesterday and I think Monday too.   High tide at Teignmouth this morning was 08:03 at nearly 15ft coupled with strong southerly winds.   

Forecasted to be very lively at Dawlish tomorrow evening. Possible full line closure on the cards tomorrow evening. 

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by bobm at 08:55, 21st January 2026
 
It happened yesterday and I think Monday too.   High tide at Teignmouth this morning was 08:03 at nearly 15ft coupled with strong southerly winds.   

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:47, 21st January 2026
 
"Permanent resilience" doesn't seem to be working too well today?

Cancellations to services between Newton Abbot and Exeter St Davids
Due to forecasted severe weather between Newton Abbot and Exeter St Davids:

Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or running non stop between Newton Abbot and Exeter St Davids. Disruption is expected until 12:00 21/01.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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Poor weather is forecast this morning in the Dawlish area.
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What are we doing about it?
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Until the weather improves, we are unable to call trains formed of our Intercity Express Trains at stations between Newton Abbot and Exeter St Davids, including Teignmouth, Dawlish and Dawlish Warren.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by bradshaw at 08:40, 14th August 2025
 
Petition set up by Andy Roden some days ago. He was involved with the campaign to save the sleeper service and the reopening of LSWR route to Plymouth.

https://www.change.org/p/unpause-phase-5-of-south-west-rail-resilience-programme?source_location=topics_page

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:24, 14th August 2025
 
Bit worrying?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2094876/devon-cornwall-railway-line-scheme-scrapped

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:55, 1st June 2024
 
Thanks Grahame,

I appreciate I was possibly asking a lot...

Paul

I have been known to do a bit lot of moving and merging, but even I balked at that one.  [Image from here is not available to guests]


Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by johnneyw at 17:25, 8th April 2024
 
It's certainly come on a lot since I walked the coast path between Teignmouth and Dawlish in August 2022....by the look of it, you probably can't do that again untill it's finished.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 11:21, 7th April 2024
 
There’s a fairly detailed YouTube video appeared concentrating on the work BAM Nuttall are doing on the cliffs south of Dawlish, might be of interest to some of you.  Interesting to see them working above the live railway at times, and it explains how they are able to do that:

https://youtu.be/iqIJl-wAMEE?si=h0oH2xlycW7_HHKR

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by broadgage at 01:46, 5th December 2023
 
This video may be of interest, it shows the Teramare ship being used for delivering heavy plant to the worksite.
https://www.dawlishbeach.com/2021/11/how-do-they-get-the-large-machinery-to-the-beach/
That’s a repeat of your post #119 in April 2022, is that definitely what you meant to post today?

Paul

Well spotted!
 I had forgotten about the earlier post, but I suppose no harm in repeating it after well over a year.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by infoman at 08:42, 29th November 2023
 
BBC spotlight TV local news reporting some of the stones in the older portion of the Dawlish wall have "moved"

Item should be on again at 13:30pm and 18:30PM wednesday.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 17:36, 28th November 2023
 
This video may be of interest, it shows the Teramare ship being used for delivering heavy plant to the worksite.
https://www.dawlishbeach.com/2021/11/how-do-they-get-the-large-machinery-to-the-beach/
That’s a repeat of your post #119 in April 2022, is that definitely what you meant to post today?

Paul

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by broadgage at 04:55, 28th November 2023
 
This video may be of interest, it shows the Teramare ship being used for delivering heavy plant to the worksite.
https://www.dawlishbeach.com/2021/11/how-do-they-get-the-large-machinery-to-the-beach/

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 11:10, 9th July 2023
 
Looking at the beachcam this morning, the down side lift tower was topped off overnight last night, and it looks as if the protective wall sections by the steps are now complete. 

That suggests they will soon be in a position to fully open the promenade walkway, for a few weeks now it’s had a temporarily narrowed section on the seaward side of the lift tower, and I think one of the videos showed that on “opening day” there was still an under track concrete pipe present, hence a gap in the platform wall.

But definitely on the last stretch of the overall project now.

Paul


Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by eightonedee at 09:23, 4th July 2023
 
Opening ceremony now on You Tube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=229q15xqrCI

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by CyclingSid at 08:13, 3rd July 2023

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by REVUpminster at 20:26, 19th June 2023
 
Was watching from 3.30am and nothing really happened until 6am when the lift shaft section that the bridge was to lie on was craned over and then craned back because it would not fit properly. Craned back over and they were able to fit the section. Must have been an hour before they were happy. The bridge was then craned over and fitted in 10 minutes.
They then had time to add the top section of the lift shaft on the carpark side and then the top cap which took longer than the bridge. Aligning of the upright connectors again.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by ellendune at 09:18, 18th June 2023
 
The footbridge span was lifted in last night.  Now visible on beach cams.  Also this video before to explain what was going to be involved. 

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 17:28, 25th May 2023
 
The sea wall between Coastguards and the Colonnade, and the new footbridge, have been opened to the public this afternoon.  I think this means there is level access between the tunnel and Dawlish Warren, and the beach is now open in time for the bank holiday weekend. 

There’s a narrow fenced off section where work continues on the seaward side of the new footbridge.

Paul

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 14:22, 15th April 2023
 
The Dawlish beachcam previously covering the Colonnade and the new stilling basin area has just been moved to cover the north of the station area as the lifts and footbridge installation has started.  The first two lift shaft sections on the seaward side were installed overnight during one night last week.

https://www.youtube.com/live/V1IwilTRjM0?feature=share

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 17:47, 25th January 2023
 
Tomorrow, 26 Jan, if the work at Dawlish goes to plan it should see the final sea wall sections installed about mid afternoon, and the last big excavator removed by sea. 

If following the work on the webcam you’ll know there’s a gap in the wall to the left of the stilling basin, that has been left to allow the big machines to get off the beach at high tides. 

Paul

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 13:42, 30th November 2022
 
The concrete pour for the new Dawlish link bridge is underway as I post this, the work can currently be seen on this video stream:
https://youtu.be/uf8ILeEpkeg
Also appears here in a wider angle view, as linked in earlier posts, but with sound:
https://youtu.be/V1IwilTRjM0

Paul

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 21:30, 1st November 2022
 
I think this is to be the general look of the new promenade link bridge.  There were a few different options shown in the planning application.


Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by ellendune at 07:54, 1st November 2022
 
Latest video on progress from Dawlish beach cams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANYK2hzCl_k Shows progress on the formwork for the bridge

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by GBM at 06:55, 1st November 2022
 
With the blow we had down far West yesterday evening, I'm surprised to see trains went through Dawlish normally yesterday.

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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 20:58, 24th October 2022
 
Just a quick summary of recent progress at Dawlish, if you follow the link to the video channel, (it’s a couple of posts back), you can see that they’ve commenced installing the concrete recurve wall sections on the unfinished end of the Marine Parade section. This part of the phase 1 build had been deferred pending confirmation of the design of the link bridge.

There’s some progress on the seaward facing walls either side of the new stilling basin.

There’s also a large temporary support deck built between the south abutment and the first bridge pier, this will carry the formwork so that the bridge can be a “cast in situ” concrete beam, apparently this is because it is too difficult to lift heavy precast sections into place over the railway.

Hope this is of interest.

Paul

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 18:46, 30th September 2022
 
Update to the previous post, the beachcams video live chat has just noted that the Dawlish Water is now expected to be diverted through its new channel on Monday next week, ie 3rd October 2022.

Paul

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 20:07, 21st September 2022
 
For anyone interested in the details of the last stages of the work near the station, Dawlish “beachcams man” has zoomed in the view of the new stilling basin, where the Dawlish Water enters the sea.  You can now easily see the layout of the basin sides (note the stepped area on the far side), and the future ground level walkway over the brook is also visible as a concrete box behind the low wall.  Sometime later this month I understand the current diversion channel will be removed and the brook will be moved permanently to its new channel.

Link to the YouTube channel here:  https://youtu.be/cnTe_FbGhgM

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 19:31, 31st August 2022
 
Latest Dawlish beachcams video update is online today and it has a lot of detail about future work:

https://youtu.be/Ji8jlKlLmXs

I noticed the four images in the Network Rail press release linked earlier are all from the beachcams man.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by stuving at 12:12, 31st August 2022
 
Network Rail have put out a news item about the completion of the Dawlish sea wall. That's just the wall itself - various pedestrian access bits, including the station footbridge, still need finishing.
The railway through Dawlish is now better protected as construction of the new, bigger sea wall has reached another major milestone.

The installation of all 164 wall panels, 203 pre-cast blocks and 189 recurve units which return waves back out to sea is now complete. This innovative design coupled with the increased height of the new sea wall will help prevent delays and disruption to passengers by minimising the likelihood of the tracks flooding and allowing the line to reopen more quickly after major storms.

The first section of new sea wall – which runs for 360 metres along Marine Parade south west of Dawlish station – was completed in July 2020. Construction of the 415 metre second section – stretching from Coastguard breakwater northeast of Dawlish station to Colonnade breakwater – began in November 2020.

Following the significant progress made installing the wall panels, blocks and recurve units, Network Rail and its contractors BAM Nuttall are now fully focused on completing the link bridge that will connect the two sections of public, accessible promenade and the new stilling basin, where Dawlish Water runs into the sea.

This work is now expected to be finished in December, due to the discovery of an uncharted gas main in June which delayed piling to install foundations for the new link bridge close to Colonnade viaduct...

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by TonyK at 19:21, 27th April 2022
 
Not seen the description "Embedded Inspector" before. Have the contractors embedded him in concrete?

National shortage of rebar, I understand.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by broadgage at 06:04, 27th April 2022
 
This video may be of interest. Shows the Terramare ship being used to deliver and retrieve the heavy machines used for the Dawlish works.

https://www.dawlishbeach.com/2021/11/how-do-they-get-the-large-machinery-to-the-beach/

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by REVUpminster at 07:17, 14th April 2022
 
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1513858626447941637?cxt=HBwWioC52cyZp4IqAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

New video of work to be done.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 12:53, 19th March 2022
 
I’ve just been watching the webcam, it’s quite interesting to see how they’re gradually building the new front wall or foundations for the new stilling basin, with access only at the bottom half of the tide.

I assume they must use a specific concrete mix for all this sort of stuff that allows for the whole site to be under water for about 6 hours shortly after the pour is complete.  I have read that most concrete sets ok under still water, it’s the scouring effect of moving water that causes problems.

Paul

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 18:47, 6th March 2022
 
Another video by Dawlish Beachcams, showing the almost complete station platforms.  During the commentary it is mentioned that piling works in the station area are almost complete.

https://youtu.be/WFqk1tAqKbI

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by grahame at 10:45, 14th February 2022
 
This piece of artwork on the front at Weymouth on Saturday reminded me of Dawlish - "The Levels are Changing and so must we":







See http://www.alystoneman.co.uk for the poet's background.
See http://www.raphaeldaden.co.uk for the artist's background.

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 14:41, 13th February 2022
 
Another video update showing the situation with the Dawlish station platform work at 1730 yesterday, he intends to do another update tonight to show 24 hours of progress.  They also show the completed temporary channel for the Dawlish Brook, the flow is expected to be diverted during this week.

https://youtu.be/t4dpz_p2lq4

Direct link to part 2:

https://youtu.be/HFBht3iu_ww

I think it’s impressive how much progress they can make in a weekend. The down ends of the platforms under the canopies look much better already…

And part 3, update from today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCOqWetpMwY

^^^ excellent service by “rogerw”, I was just about to add a note about part 3 but it was already done!

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 16:58, 14th January 2022
 
Video posted by Dawlish Beach Cams today, showing the work going on to divert the Dawlish Brook while they build a new “stilling basin”.  Does “stilling” in this context come from trying to reduce the effect of waves on the flow of the brook?   Or is it slowing the brook flow to stop it scouring away the beach?

https://youtu.be/pbUc5B5FMTM

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 12:37, 3rd August 2021
 
There’s a good video on the Dawlish beachcams YouTube channel with detailed coverage of the progress by the middle of last month:

https://youtu.be/08wFqU19VMM

Paul

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by bobm at 11:30, 3rd August 2021
 
Network Rail has written to Teignmouth residents explaining their latest plans

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Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by REVUpminster at 11:03, 3rd August 2021
 
Concrete panels completed at Dawlish. Concrete infilling taking place. Some recurvers installed.
Wooden platform still to go; I expect in stages out of season. Everywhere is packed out down here.

https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/another-brick-in-the-wall-key-milestone-reached-in-dawlish

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by RailCornwall at 17:38, 6th July 2021
 
Trespass at Dawlish is the subject of a warning/educational Tweet today by Network Rail.

https://twitter.com/networkrail/status/1412449527660007424

Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
Posted by paul7575 at 19:32, 2nd July 2021
 
Not seen the description "Embedded Inspector" before. Have the contractors embedded him in concrete?

I think it might be to do with an advanced level of working from home…  [Image from here is not available to guests]

Paul

 
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