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| Re: St Pancras plans for direct trains from UK to Germany - Feb 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [358730/29934/51] Posted by Noggin at 16:13, 23rd February 2025 |      |
The problem is not just passport checking but the need to scan all luggage. I use Eurostar 4 or 6 times a year and the security check always takes far longer than passport control. I wonder if these checks are really necessary. The Gotthard base tunnel is longer that the Channel tunnel and checks are not considered necessary for that.
When the Channel Tunnel was first opened, IRA terrorism was a significant risk, hence many of the security measures.
Arguably its still a major target - unlike the Swiss, we have been involved in a lot of conflicts over the years.
Also, if I recall correctly, the Spanish have airline-style security on high-speed rail routes too.
| Re: Cancelling a ticket on the GWR app In "Fare's Fair" [358729/27277/4] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 15:21, 23rd February 2025 | |
As is often the case, I've just stumbled across this topic while I was looking for something else.
Is it still an issue?
| Re: Heritage rail locations across the area In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [358728/29937/47] Posted by grahame at 15:12, 23rd February 2025 | |
Many thanks for all those additions and corrections ... which I will build into the updated and corrected mapping. Some are obvious omissions - some I wonder where to draw the line. I recall doing the swing bridge over the sheepwash channel and the old Culham stations on their open days and there may be logic to include those, as well as logic to say they are so rarely open that they should not be included.
| Re: Didcot Power Station - events and incidents, ongoing discussion In "Across the West" [358727/14313/26] Posted by Electric train at 15:06, 23rd February 2025 | |
From the BBC:
Didcot collapse probe 'in latter stages', police say
The investigation into the deaths of four men in the collapse at Didcot Power Station nine years ago is moving "towards the latter stages", police have said.
On 23 February 2016 part of the old boiler house at the Didcot A plant collapsed, killing Ken Cresswell, John Shaw, Michael Collings and Christopher Huxtable.
Demolition News editor Mark Anthony said it was "a national disgrace" that their families were still waiting for answers.
Thames Valley Police said its joined investigation with the Health and Safety Executive "continues to make meaningful progress". The force said it was "actively investigating" offences of corporate manslaughter, gross negligence manslaughter and Health and Safety at Work Act offences.
John Shaw, Christopher Huxtable, Michael Collings and Ken Cresswell (clockwise from top left) died in the collapse nine years ago
It took more than six months for the men's bodies to be recovered and family members of the victims previously said they were finding waiting for the investigation to conclude "really hard".
Last year, Mr Anthony started a petition calling for a pubic inquiry into the time it has taken. "Unfortunately, it is not without precedent," he said, comparing it to the investigations into Hillsborough and Grenfell. "There's been no pressure from the Home Office or the home secretary to make the police at Thames Valley... get everything resolved any quicker."
"To date, the investigation team has collated and analysed over 6,500 exhibits, 90,000 images, and 230,000 digital media artefacts," Deputy Chief Constable Ben Snuggs said. "Over 180 hours of video recorded witness and suspect interviews have been conducted, in addition to the 2,812 statements taken." He said while "a specific timeframe" for its conclusion could not be specified, they were "confident that we are moving towards the latter stages" of enquiries. "Our officers continue to provide regular updates to the families on the investigation progress, as well as to the Crown Prosecution Service."
Mr Anthony said: "The entire demolition world is looking to the UK, Thames Valley Police and the Health and Safety Executive for some answers, so that they can send in men and women to work safely. And nine years later, we still can't do that."
Olly Glover, the newly elected MP for Didcot and Wantage, said he was "putting pressure" on the police to make progress. "But also the investigation does need to be allowed to conclude in a way that gets all of the evidence to the surface," he said.
Site owner RWE Power said "Our thoughts remain with the families of the four men who died in this tragic incident. We continue to cooperate fully with Thames Valley Police."
The Home Office said it would not comment while the investigation was ongoing.
The investigation into the deaths of four men in the collapse at Didcot Power Station nine years ago is moving "towards the latter stages", police have said.
On 23 February 2016 part of the old boiler house at the Didcot A plant collapsed, killing Ken Cresswell, John Shaw, Michael Collings and Christopher Huxtable.
Demolition News editor Mark Anthony said it was "a national disgrace" that their families were still waiting for answers.
Thames Valley Police said its joined investigation with the Health and Safety Executive "continues to make meaningful progress". The force said it was "actively investigating" offences of corporate manslaughter, gross negligence manslaughter and Health and Safety at Work Act offences.
John Shaw, Christopher Huxtable, Michael Collings and Ken Cresswell (clockwise from top left) died in the collapse nine years ago
It took more than six months for the men's bodies to be recovered and family members of the victims previously said they were finding waiting for the investigation to conclude "really hard".
Last year, Mr Anthony started a petition calling for a pubic inquiry into the time it has taken. "Unfortunately, it is not without precedent," he said, comparing it to the investigations into Hillsborough and Grenfell. "There's been no pressure from the Home Office or the home secretary to make the police at Thames Valley... get everything resolved any quicker."
"To date, the investigation team has collated and analysed over 6,500 exhibits, 90,000 images, and 230,000 digital media artefacts," Deputy Chief Constable Ben Snuggs said. "Over 180 hours of video recorded witness and suspect interviews have been conducted, in addition to the 2,812 statements taken." He said while "a specific timeframe" for its conclusion could not be specified, they were "confident that we are moving towards the latter stages" of enquiries. "Our officers continue to provide regular updates to the families on the investigation progress, as well as to the Crown Prosecution Service."
Mr Anthony said: "The entire demolition world is looking to the UK, Thames Valley Police and the Health and Safety Executive for some answers, so that they can send in men and women to work safely. And nine years later, we still can't do that."
Olly Glover, the newly elected MP for Didcot and Wantage, said he was "putting pressure" on the police to make progress. "But also the investigation does need to be allowed to conclude in a way that gets all of the evidence to the surface," he said.
Site owner RWE Power said "Our thoughts remain with the families of the four men who died in this tragic incident. We continue to cooperate fully with Thames Valley Police."
The Home Office said it would not comment while the investigation was ongoing.
9 years is a long time, but it is a complex incident to investigate and the Police and HSE will want to go for the highest charges they can. I suspect there are a number of executives and board directors member of the companies in position at the time are sweating.
Prime Minister William Gladstone said 1868 "justice delayed is justice denied" it is used to describe the situation when someone who has been injured is not given a remedy in a timely manner, in the Didcot Power Station incident is it not better to get the right prosecutions and not just go for the easy and quick, I want to see CEO's, Board Directors, senior managers in the dock being held accountable and not just some poor lower managers and supervisors left to carry the can (unless they dod do something wrong of course)
| Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [358726/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 14:52, 23rd February 2025 | |
14:47 Westbury to Swindon due 15:34
15:44 Swindon to Westbury due 16:25
15:44 Swindon to Westbury due 16:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
15:44 Swindon to Westbury due 16:25
15:44 Swindon to Westbury due 16:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
and now ...
14:47 Westbury to Swindon due 15:34
14:47 Westbury to Swindon due 15:34 will be starting late from Westbury and is expected to be 15 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
14:47 Westbury to Swindon due 15:34 will be starting late from Westbury and is expected to be 15 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
I guess that it was re-instated? Not sure where the service disruption is - could it be the disruption caused by engineering works that mean the is bustitution from Westbury in the Frome direction?
I'v said it before but rather than a frightening will be cancelled from the earlier report which has a degree of finality about it, and suggests it's not even with checking back later, could we have a may be cancelled early caution system - rather like signals are not just red and green, but red, amber and green?
| Re: Is it April 1st already ?? In "Across the West" [358725/29936/26] Posted by Clan Line at 14:12, 23rd February 2025 | |
The big problem with foam is that it deteriorates badly with age. They do a "squirming Irma" test on a new foam filled cushion and say it is good for use - but, what they don't do, is the same test on a 5 year old piece of foam which would rapidly leave you with a cushion cover full of powder............and no cushioning effect whatsoever.
I notice from the exhibition "blurb" on these new seats the only mention of passenger comfort is that it is "more comfortable" .........than what - a concrete picnic bench or an IET seat ?? The so-called "comfort scores" are nothing but a load of physical dimensions - generally meaningless comfort wise. The rest of the stuff was written by Ed Milliband !
| Re: Didcot Power Station - events and incidents, ongoing discussion In "Across the West" [358724/14313/26] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:33, 23rd February 2025 | |
From the BBC:
Didcot collapse probe 'in latter stages', police say
The investigation into the deaths of four men in the collapse at Didcot Power Station nine years ago is moving "towards the latter stages", police have said.
On 23 February 2016 part of the old boiler house at the Didcot A plant collapsed, killing Ken Cresswell, John Shaw, Michael Collings and Christopher Huxtable.
Demolition News editor Mark Anthony said it was "a national disgrace" that their families were still waiting for answers.
Thames Valley Police said its joined investigation with the Health and Safety Executive "continues to make meaningful progress". The force said it was "actively investigating" offences of corporate manslaughter, gross negligence manslaughter and Health and Safety at Work Act offences.
John Shaw, Christopher Huxtable, Michael Collings and Ken Cresswell (clockwise from top left) died in the collapse nine years ago
It took more than six months for the men's bodies to be recovered and family members of the victims previously said they were finding waiting for the investigation to conclude "really hard".
Last year, Mr Anthony started a petition calling for a pubic inquiry into the time it has taken. "Unfortunately, it is not without precedent," he said, comparing it to the investigations into Hillsborough and Grenfell. "There's been no pressure from the Home Office or the home secretary to make the police at Thames Valley... get everything resolved any quicker."
"To date, the investigation team has collated and analysed over 6,500 exhibits, 90,000 images, and 230,000 digital media artefacts," Deputy Chief Constable Ben Snuggs said. "Over 180 hours of video recorded witness and suspect interviews have been conducted, in addition to the 2,812 statements taken." He said while "a specific timeframe" for its conclusion could not be specified, they were "confident that we are moving towards the latter stages" of enquiries. "Our officers continue to provide regular updates to the families on the investigation progress, as well as to the Crown Prosecution Service."
Mr Anthony said: "The entire demolition world is looking to the UK, Thames Valley Police and the Health and Safety Executive for some answers, so that they can send in men and women to work safely. And nine years later, we still can't do that."
Olly Glover, the newly elected MP for Didcot and Wantage, said he was "putting pressure" on the police to make progress. "But also the investigation does need to be allowed to conclude in a way that gets all of the evidence to the surface," he said.
Site owner RWE Power said "Our thoughts remain with the families of the four men who died in this tragic incident. We continue to cooperate fully with Thames Valley Police."
The Home Office said it would not comment while the investigation was ongoing.
The investigation into the deaths of four men in the collapse at Didcot Power Station nine years ago is moving "towards the latter stages", police have said.
On 23 February 2016 part of the old boiler house at the Didcot A plant collapsed, killing Ken Cresswell, John Shaw, Michael Collings and Christopher Huxtable.
Demolition News editor Mark Anthony said it was "a national disgrace" that their families were still waiting for answers.
Thames Valley Police said its joined investigation with the Health and Safety Executive "continues to make meaningful progress". The force said it was "actively investigating" offences of corporate manslaughter, gross negligence manslaughter and Health and Safety at Work Act offences.
John Shaw, Christopher Huxtable, Michael Collings and Ken Cresswell (clockwise from top left) died in the collapse nine years ago
It took more than six months for the men's bodies to be recovered and family members of the victims previously said they were finding waiting for the investigation to conclude "really hard".
Last year, Mr Anthony started a petition calling for a pubic inquiry into the time it has taken. "Unfortunately, it is not without precedent," he said, comparing it to the investigations into Hillsborough and Grenfell. "There's been no pressure from the Home Office or the home secretary to make the police at Thames Valley... get everything resolved any quicker."
"To date, the investigation team has collated and analysed over 6,500 exhibits, 90,000 images, and 230,000 digital media artefacts," Deputy Chief Constable Ben Snuggs said. "Over 180 hours of video recorded witness and suspect interviews have been conducted, in addition to the 2,812 statements taken." He said while "a specific timeframe" for its conclusion could not be specified, they were "confident that we are moving towards the latter stages" of enquiries. "Our officers continue to provide regular updates to the families on the investigation progress, as well as to the Crown Prosecution Service."
Mr Anthony said: "The entire demolition world is looking to the UK, Thames Valley Police and the Health and Safety Executive for some answers, so that they can send in men and women to work safely. And nine years later, we still can't do that."
Olly Glover, the newly elected MP for Didcot and Wantage, said he was "putting pressure" on the police to make progress. "But also the investigation does need to be allowed to conclude in a way that gets all of the evidence to the surface," he said.
Site owner RWE Power said "Our thoughts remain with the families of the four men who died in this tragic incident. We continue to cooperate fully with Thames Valley Police."
The Home Office said it would not comment while the investigation was ongoing.
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| Re: St Pancras plans for direct trains from UK to Germany - Feb 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [358722/29934/51] Posted by rogerw at 11:01, 23rd February 2025 | |
The problem is not just passport checking but the need to scan all luggage. I use Eurostar 4 or 6 times a year and the security check always takes far longer than passport control. I wonder if these checks are really necessary. The Gotthard base tunnel is longer that the Channel tunnel and checks are not considered necessary for that.
| Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [358721/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 10:44, 23rd February 2025 Already liked by GBM, Chris from Nailsea | |
That has to be a first for Melksham?
A train terminating, then starting there!
A train terminating, then starting there!
A few years back there was a Sunday train from Westbury which was timetabled to terminate at Melksham and then return. However in the end it was extended to Chippenham as it was reported you couldn't turn a train at Melksham as it "confused" the axle counters. Perhaps that is no longer the case.
Not sure - there is "can't" and there is "CAN'T".
Trowbridge is a classic example - you can't turn a train arriving from the north there but yet it HAS been done when line to the south was blocked by an "incident".
| Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [358720/29726/18] Posted by bobm at 10:37, 23rd February 2025 Already liked by GBM | |
That has to be a first for Melksham?
A train terminating, then starting there!
A train terminating, then starting there!
A few years back there was a Sunday train from Westbury which was timetabled to terminate at Melksham and then return. However in the end it was extended to Chippenham as it was reported you couldn't turn a train at Melksham as it "confused" the axle counters. Perhaps that is no longer the case.
| Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [358719/29726/18] Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:48, 23rd February 2025 | |
Alterations to services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham
Due to engineering works not being finished on time at Swindon all lines are closed. Disruption is expected until 10:30 23/02.
Train services between Westbury and Swindon via Melksham may be delayed by up to 45 minutes or revised.
Customer Advice
As a result of engineering work not being finished on time there will be severe delays / disruption to services on this route this morning. Please accept our aplogies for any inconvenience this may cause.
| Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [358718/29726/18] Posted by GBM at 09:20, 23rd February 2025 | |
08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58
08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58 was terminated at Melksham.
It will no longer call at Chippenham and Swindon.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58 was terminated at Melksham.
It will no longer call at Chippenham and Swindon.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49
09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49 will be started from Melksham.
It will no longer call at Swindon and Chippenham.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49 will be started from Melksham.
It will no longer call at Swindon and Chippenham.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
That has to be a first for Melksham?
A train terminating, then starting there!
| Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [358717/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 09:19, 23rd February 2025 | |
08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58
08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58 was terminated at Melksham.
It will no longer call at Chippenham and Swindon.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58 was terminated at Melksham.
It will no longer call at Chippenham and Swindon.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49
09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49 will be started from Melksham.
It will no longer call at Swindon and Chippenham.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49 will be started from Melksham.
It will no longer call at Swindon and Chippenham.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
Nothing on journey check about what passengers should do - purely "feature" not "benefit" which I was taught was not the way to do it in my sales training.
There is an x34 bus at 08:48 from Melksham to Chippenham (railway station if required) that goes past the top of station approach in Melksham - doesn't actually stop there normally, but it [sh/c]ould.
There is an x34 bus at 09:25 from Chippenham railway station to Melksham and Trowbridge (on Sunday, of course, it does not go to the stop near Trowbridge station, and even by the time it reaches Melksham and passes close to the station, the train will have left.
Lots of things illustrated by these goings on ...
| Re: Heritage rail locations across the area In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [358716/29937/47] Posted by bobm at 09:18, 23rd February 2025 Already liked by GBM, Chris from Nailsea, johnneyw, eightonedee | |
Presumably him referring to Blackwell made you Crosse.
| Re: St Pancras plans for direct trains from UK to Germany - Feb 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [358715/29934/51] Posted by grahame at 09:06, 23rd February 2025 Already liked by eightonedee | |
Both the EU and the UK are moving towards the electronic type visa, so instead of queuing to have your Passport stamped provided you are registered for the visa your Passport and face is scanned at the departure points and the barrier opens and on you travel.
The e-visa has to be the future
The e-visa has to be the future
Indeed - history is littered with changes that have made things work far quicker in less space. I suspect that more people use Exmouth station (random choice) with one platform than they did with - well, how many was it before? - and with run round loops, water towers, stations staff and much more ...
Perhaps with compact scanning of international passengers, Ashford International could re-open for that, a curve (sorry - straight line) put in allowing direct running from Godstone to Reigate, and we could see international trains from Zurich and Berlin to Ashford, changing there for the London expresses (to not only St Pancras but also Charing Cross and Victoria), for Fishguard via Reading for passengers to Ireland, and to Bournemouth via Hastings, Brighton and Southampton
| Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [358714/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 08:57, 23rd February 2025 | |
08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58
08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58 was terminated at Melksham.
It will no longer call at Chippenham and Swindon.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58 was terminated at Melksham.
It will no longer call at Chippenham and Swindon.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49
09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49 will be started from Melksham.
It will no longer call at Swindon and Chippenham.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49 will be started from Melksham.
It will no longer call at Swindon and Chippenham.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [358713/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 08:31, 23rd February 2025 | |
08:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:23/02/2025 08:06
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:23/02/2025 08:06
| Re: St Pancras plans for direct trains from UK to Germany - Feb 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [358712/29934/51] Posted by Electric train at 07:34, 23rd February 2025 | |
How do these plans fit in with the UK government requirement for entry checking before boarding? or is there a secret plan to join Schengen?
I was more concerned with incoming trains as HM Government has wanted to perform immigration procedures on the continent to remove the possibility of arriving passengers who are denied entry claiming asylum.
Both the EU and the UK are moving towards the electronic type visa, so instead of queuing to have your Passport stamped provided you are registered for the visa your Passport and face is scanned at the departure points and the barrier opens and on you travel.
The e-visa has to be the future
| Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [358711/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 05:52, 23rd February 2025 | |
14:47 Westbury to Swindon due 15:34
15:44 Swindon to Westbury due 16:25
15:44 Swindon to Westbury due 16:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
15:44 Swindon to Westbury due 16:25
15:44 Swindon to Westbury due 16:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
| Re: Heritage rail locations across the area In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [358710/29937/47] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:45, 23rd February 2025 | |
Although I've not been there, there is the Devon Railway Centre at Blickleigh.
Thanks, johnneyw, but it's actually in Bickleigh. Coincidentally, I have been there - some time ago.
Your typo, however, caused me no undue concern - compared with the outrage I felt when Michael Portillo (with all of his researchers as a backup team) still referred to my local station as Nailsea & Blackwell, when he visited us.
Chris from Backwell (our local station is actually just within the parish of Backwell).
| Re: Heritage rail locations across the area In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [358708/29937/47] Posted by Trowres at 00:15, 23rd February 2025 | |
Romsey signalbox
Shillingstone Station
Gartell Light Railway (does this count as heritage?)
| Re: Heritage rail locations across the area In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [358704/29937/47] Posted by eightonedee at 22:09, 22nd February 2025 | |
Wot no DIDCOT!
| Re: Heritage rail locations across the area In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [358703/29937/47] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:39, 22nd February 2025 | |
Thanks, ChrisB.
"Brecon Moutain" could also do with being corrected.
However, when I looked at most of the formatting in that post, such that many of those links don't work, even I decided to take a step back from that one.
Sorry, grahame.
| Re: 5 Retailers - 5 different fares for same journeys In "Fare's Fair" [358702/29925/4] Posted by grahame at 21:37, 22nd February 2025 | |
My travel plans are to fit around a fixed appointment. My point is how easy it is for someone to end up paying more that they need to due to the complex nature of the fares system.
Supremely easy (and it happens all the time). Just as it's very easy to go into a supermarket and pick up a rather more expensive tin of chopped tomatoes or bottle of cola. And the choice is not always obvious.
| Re: 5 Retailers - 5 different fares for same journeys In "Fare's Fair" [358701/29925/4] Posted by njt at 21:10, 22nd February 2025 | |
My travel plans are to fit around a fixed appointment. My point is how easy it is for someone to end up paying more that they need to due to the complex nature of the fares system.
