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...infrastructure takes up much more space than it used to in order to comply with modern standards.
I'm interested in this statement. How much more space is needed? I recognise that safe access (walkways and so on) didn't use to be a priority, but what other new requirements are there?
Ballast shoulders are wider and higher, even for relatively slow speed lines, and there would clearance and space for electrification even if it is not in the current plan
And as well as that the furniture like signal gantries is getting bigger and more robust, along with cabinets for that equipment which now also house TPWS equipment...and so on and so on.
Fortunately the one big potential obstacle for extending the Up Oxford Relief, the bridge that carries Old Abingdon Road over it was rebuilt with space for a fourth track, indeed if you watch the following video from 43m00s to 46m 00s you can see the route in question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMADOeBumAU
From the site of the proposed new junction north of Radley at 43m 10s to Kennington Junction at 44m 55s you can see the width of the formation is adequate for a third track without widening the boundary. A small bit of track slewing and movement of equipment boxes/signals will be needed, but nothing too monumentral and note the new footbridge at 44m 38s is wide enough.
From 45m 00s to 45m 25s the extra track is already in place as it's a goods loop.
45m 28s is the Old Abingdon Road bridge which has space for the fourth track on the right and it can then run behind the equipment boxes until it passes over one of the Hinksey Stream bridge at 45m 43s where the right hand span is currently not used and with a small amount of track slewing (and movement of equipment) there is room for it to continue on the right hand side under the two footbridges at 46m 11s and 46m 40s until 47m 00s where the current Up Oxford Relief line ends.
| Re: OTD - 2nd March 1953 - Passenger service to Highworth ceases In "Railway History and related topics" [368610/26105/55] Posted by Marlburian at 18:15, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
A new YouTube video (just two days old) about the Highworth branch.
OK, there are lots of "old railway" videos, but I'm mentioning this one for two reasons:
1. the amount of surviving track, now obscured by vegetation.
2. in the summer my cousin-criminologist from a Welsh university was discussing with a senior officer at Wiltshire Police a meeting so she could research something sensitive. There was some confusion as to whether this would take place at Devizes or Swindon, and some discussion between us as to how she would get to either place by train, though we agreed that it would make sense for her to travel to me, stay overnight, and then I could drive her to either place. (In both cases the routes would be very scenic.) I pondered how I would amuse myself during her meeting. Had it been Swindon I might have killed time in Highworth. Now I realise that the overgrown track was very close to Swindon police station - and I might now explore it next year.
As it happened, no meeting took place, possibly because her research would have related to over-sensitive areas.
| Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368609/27074/9] Posted by Electric train at 18:02, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
...infrastructure takes up much more space than it used to in order to comply with modern standards.
I'm interested in this statement. How much more space is needed? I recognise that safe access (walkways and so on) didn't use to be a priority, but what other new requirements are there?
Ballast shoulders are wider and higher, even for relatively slow speed lines, and there would clearance and space for electrification even if it is not in the current plan
Drivers are *never* at fault. We all know this, don't we?

From the BBC:
Weardale Railway Santa train cancelled over mechanical failures

Weardale Railway said the Santa Express services would be back next year
A "much-loved" Santa train experience on a heritage railway has been cancelled over mechanical problems.
Weardale Railway's 2025 Santa Express services had been due to begin next month but restoration works on one of its locomotives were delayed and the backup engine suffered a "major generator fault", rendering it inoperable.
The company apologised saying it was "absolutely devastated" and that it had been unable to source alternative engines in time to reliably deliver the service. People with existing bookings will receive a full refund and those affected will be contacted, Weardale Railway said.
In previous years, customers on the heritage railway attraction would be transported from Stanhope Station in County Durham, before Santa boarded the train and gave out gifts.
General Manager Claire Gibbons said: "We are sad and frustrated to have to make this decision. We have explored every possible option to keep the event running, but the mechanical challenges we're facing simply cannot be resolved in time."
Its key locomotive was sent for repairs in April and was originally due to return to service in this month.
Weardale Railway said the festive service would be back next year. Other events such as their Halloween trains will go ahead as planned this year, as they use a smaller single-carriage diesel train unaffected by the current issues, the company said.

Weardale Railway said the Santa Express services would be back next year
A "much-loved" Santa train experience on a heritage railway has been cancelled over mechanical problems.
Weardale Railway's 2025 Santa Express services had been due to begin next month but restoration works on one of its locomotives were delayed and the backup engine suffered a "major generator fault", rendering it inoperable.
The company apologised saying it was "absolutely devastated" and that it had been unable to source alternative engines in time to reliably deliver the service. People with existing bookings will receive a full refund and those affected will be contacted, Weardale Railway said.
In previous years, customers on the heritage railway attraction would be transported from Stanhope Station in County Durham, before Santa boarded the train and gave out gifts.
General Manager Claire Gibbons said: "We are sad and frustrated to have to make this decision. We have explored every possible option to keep the event running, but the mechanical challenges we're facing simply cannot be resolved in time."
Its key locomotive was sent for repairs in April and was originally due to return to service in this month.
Weardale Railway said the festive service would be back next year. Other events such as their Halloween trains will go ahead as planned this year, as they use a smaller single-carriage diesel train unaffected by the current issues, the company said.
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [368604/29711/14] Posted by matth1j at 15:27, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
the kinematic envelope

What sounds like a good description from AI (but might be totally wrong of course):
https://gemini.google.com/share/ed78d791ab52
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [368603/29711/14] Posted by Mark A at 15:19, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
Perhaps a minor addition to the transport woes west of Worcester: the GWR train service being challenged at the same time as the long term closure of the A449 at the point where it crosses the Malverns.
Perhaps affects journeys involving Ledbury more than anywhere else.
(Other roads are available, including the one that offers a glimpse of a survival that might have been down to the influence of Mr Ballard: the timbered cottage that, when the railway was built, was retained, despite it being necessary to take a corner off to accommodate the kinematic envelope of the trains. I do hope the building's compatible with the OHLE that will be taken past it in due course.)
Mark
| Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368602/27074/9] Posted by Red Squirrel at 14:33, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
...infrastructure takes up much more space than it used to in order to comply with modern standards.
I'm interested in this statement. How much more space is needed? I recognise that safe access (walkways and so on) didn't use to be a priority, but what other new requirements are there?
| Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2025 In "TransWilts line" [368601/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 13:30, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Additional Information
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If you are at Swindon or Chippenham travelling to Trowbridge or Westbury you should travel on the 13:25 Weston-super-Mare service from Swindon (13:38 from Chippenham) and change at Bath Spa for the 14:03 Warminster service which calls at Trowbridge (14:25) and Westbury (12:32). However, if you are at Swindon or Chippenham earlier, you may take the first available service via Bath Spa, via Melksham tickets will be accepted via Bath Spa at no additional cost.
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If you are travelling to Melksham you should change at Chippenham and speak to station staff.
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If you are at Melksham we will provide road transport to Trowbridge and Westbury from the station car park.
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Additional Information
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If you are at Swindon or Chippenham travelling to Trowbridge or Westbury you should travel on the 13:25 Weston-super-Mare service from Swindon (13:38 from Chippenham) and change at Bath Spa for the 14:03 Warminster service which calls at Trowbridge (14:25) and Westbury (12:32). However, if you are at Swindon or Chippenham earlier, you may take the first available service via Bath Spa, via Melksham tickets will be accepted via Bath Spa at no additional cost.
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If you are travelling to Melksham you should change at Chippenham and speak to station staff.
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If you are at Melksham we will provide road transport to Trowbridge and Westbury from the station car park.
13:43 Chippenham to Westbury due 14:26
An additional bus service has been planned to operate as shown 13:43 Chippenham to Westbury due 14:26.
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Please check the stations Onward Travel Information poster and wait for the replacement road transport at the designated stop.
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The road transport is taxis, operated by Bath Taxis. Before getting in any taxi vehicle please check with the driver that they are working on behalf of GWR, the driver should not ask for payment.
An additional bus service has been planned to operate as shown 13:43 Chippenham to Westbury due 14:26.
Additional Information
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Please check the stations Onward Travel Information poster and wait for the replacement road transport at the designated stop.
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The road transport is taxis, operated by Bath Taxis. Before getting in any taxi vehicle please check with the driver that they are working on behalf of GWR, the driver should not ask for payment.
| Re: First Bus pulling out of Cornwall, 14.2.2026 In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368600/31133/5] Posted by LiskeardRich at 13:29, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
Sharing Geoff Brown, Lib Dem for Newquay, on Facebook
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We did look at electric buses but the length of most routes and very hilly nature of Cornwall meant that they were not suitable. That said going forward electrification of the Park & Ride in Truro will be a distinct possibility in the future, should funding become available.
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We did look at electric buses but the length of most routes and very hilly nature of Cornwall meant that they were not suitable. That said going forward electrification of the Park & Ride in Truro will be a distinct possibility in the future, should funding become available.
At least one in a depot' oop narf' somewhere, I believe.
Photo's have been taken of it.
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There’s definitely one in storage somewhere, photos were leaked. It should be noted the park and ride buses are fully funded and owned by Cornwall council so will transfer to any other operator
| Re: 175s to GWR In "Across the West" [368599/28982/26] Posted by John D at 13:08, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
Been announced that contract for £3,159,166 enhancement works at Laira depot for 175s has been awarded to Emeg of Chesterfield
https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2025/W47/859046297
| Re: First Bus pulling out of Cornwall, 14.2.2026 In "Buses and other ways to travel" [368598/31133/5] Posted by GBM at 12:51, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
Sharing Geoff Brown, Lib Dem for Newquay, on Facebook
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We did look at electric buses but the length of most routes and very hilly nature of Cornwall meant that they were not suitable. That said going forward electrification of the Park & Ride in Truro will be a distinct possibility in the future, should funding become available.
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We did look at electric buses but the length of most routes and very hilly nature of Cornwall meant that they were not suitable. That said going forward electrification of the Park & Ride in Truro will be a distinct possibility in the future, should funding become available.
(Electric) Busses already ordered last year!
At least one in a depot' oop narf' somewhere, I believe.
Photo's have been taken of it.
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [368597/29711/14] Posted by charles_uk at 12:22, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
And yet another short-form which will impact on tomorrow's London bound peak:
Facilities on the 19:53 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:57.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service.
so tomorrow's 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington train is likely to be short-formed for the third day running.
| Re: Mining in Cornwall In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368596/29414/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 12:12, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Redruth sinkhole car still stuck after three weeks

Malcolm McKenzie's Mini fell into the old mine workings on 1 November
The owner of a car that has been stuck in a sinkhole for more than three weeks is no closer to getting it out and is finding the situation "really stressful".
It is believed the 10ft (3m) wide hole opened up due to old mine workings in Redruth, Cornwall.
The owners of a bakery beside the collapse are unable to use part of the building and some nearby residents are facing access issues.
Cornwall Council said the area would remain fenced off until it was able to determine who owned the land, which appeared to be unregistered.
Car owner Malcolm McKenzie said: "My insurance company has offered to recover the car for free, which is good of them, but Cornwall Council says they can't take the fence down until they get written permission from the landowner - and there is no landowner.
"Until I can find somebody to buy the land from or give me permission, I'm stuck. Even if I did buy the land, then I'd have to make the area safe which would cost a lot of money which I don't have."
He added: "Although it was funny at first, I'm finding the whole thing really stressful now."
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A spokesperson for Cornwall Council said: "While we have every sympathy with the car owner, this collapse did not occur on council land. We have made the area safe and advised the car owner that we will arrange to lift the barrier to enable him to recover the vehicle. As the land is unregistered, our barriers will remain in place until land ownership has been determined, and we will continue to monitor the surrounding area to ensure public safety."
Historical mine expert Dan Berriman said it was likely the old workings were linked to the Pednandrea Mine, one of many in the Redruth area, some dating back hundreds of years. He said there were more than 20,000 mine shafts across south-west England and probably "less than 10% have been properly fixed".
Mr Berriman added if heavy equipment, such as a crane, was needed to remove the car, it may not have stable ground to stand on, causing further problems for any recovery team.

Malcolm McKenzie's Mini fell into the old mine workings on 1 November
The owner of a car that has been stuck in a sinkhole for more than three weeks is no closer to getting it out and is finding the situation "really stressful".
It is believed the 10ft (3m) wide hole opened up due to old mine workings in Redruth, Cornwall.
The owners of a bakery beside the collapse are unable to use part of the building and some nearby residents are facing access issues.
Cornwall Council said the area would remain fenced off until it was able to determine who owned the land, which appeared to be unregistered.
Car owner Malcolm McKenzie said: "My insurance company has offered to recover the car for free, which is good of them, but Cornwall Council says they can't take the fence down until they get written permission from the landowner - and there is no landowner.
"Until I can find somebody to buy the land from or give me permission, I'm stuck. Even if I did buy the land, then I'd have to make the area safe which would cost a lot of money which I don't have."
He added: "Although it was funny at first, I'm finding the whole thing really stressful now."
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A spokesperson for Cornwall Council said: "While we have every sympathy with the car owner, this collapse did not occur on council land. We have made the area safe and advised the car owner that we will arrange to lift the barrier to enable him to recover the vehicle. As the land is unregistered, our barriers will remain in place until land ownership has been determined, and we will continue to monitor the surrounding area to ensure public safety."
Historical mine expert Dan Berriman said it was likely the old workings were linked to the Pednandrea Mine, one of many in the Redruth area, some dating back hundreds of years. He said there were more than 20,000 mine shafts across south-west England and probably "less than 10% have been properly fixed".
Mr Berriman added if heavy equipment, such as a crane, was needed to remove the car, it may not have stable ground to stand on, causing further problems for any recovery team.
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [368595/29711/14] Posted by charles_uk at 11:59, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
The 8:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington train was another 5 car short formation, but it ran non-stop from WOS to Oxford as it was running late due to crew being delayed. It departed Worcester 46 minutes late, Oxford 21 late and arrived 30 late at Paddington.
The following 8:56 Great Malvern to Paddington was reported "full and standing" before Hanborough.
I assume a Boeing 737 was all they could find available. It would have been cheaper to hire a dozen limousines with liveried chauffeur, but that wouldn't protect the slot.
| Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368593/27074/9] Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:16, 25th November 2025 Already liked by Richard Fairhurst | ![]() |
I haven't seen this posted elsewhere, but apparently this is the infra work planned as part of the Cowley reopening:
I hadn't seen it either, but it kind of tallies with what I'd heard. There was also talk of a turnback siding at Hinksey, but the extension of the Up Oxford Relief to just before Radley would probably replace that. Good to see new crossovers at Kennington Junction - presumably 40mph ones to replace the current 25mph ones.
It should be relatively easy given there used to be a third passenger standard track running through to Kennington Junction and the railway boundary south of Kennington Junction to Radley is nice and wide. Though having said that, infrastructure takes up much more space than it used to in order to comply with modern standards.
| Re: Advertising of misleading minimum pricing which is scarcely available In "Fare's Fair" [368591/31116/4] Posted by Timmer at 10:36, 25th November 2025 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() |
Maybe that’s what they mean when they say ‘Book early and save’.
Aren't the recognised standard units for this kind of measurement "Double Decker Buses" and "Olympic Sized Swimming Pools"?
Until someone can tell me how these distances compare with the size of Wales I will have no idea what you are all talking about 

Well a blue whale's length can be typlcally about thirty metres so, no, hang on... ah...
Mark
| Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years. In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368588/31150/31] Posted by Red Squirrel at 09:08, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
Trying to put that 115 feet in to perspective.
So if we say the height of ceilings in a terraced house is eight feet
so if we take into account a two story house that's 24 feet.
That would be mean FIVE terraced house's on top of one another,
that's quite some distance to pile down.
So if we say the height of ceilings in a terraced house is eight feet
so if we take into account a two story house that's 24 feet.
That would be mean FIVE terraced house's on top of one another,
that's quite some distance to pile down.
An IET carriage is 26 metres long and we are talking 35 metres (115 feet) of piling - so that's a carriage and a third.
Until someone can tell me how these distances compare with the size of Wales I will have no idea what you are all talking about

| Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years. In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368587/31150/31] Posted by grahame at 08:22, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
Trying to put that 115 feet in to perspective.
So if we say the height of ceilings in a terraced house is eight feet
so if we take into account a two story house that's 24 feet.
That would be mean FIVE terraced house's on top of one another,
that's quite some distance to pile down.
So if we say the height of ceilings in a terraced house is eight feet
so if we take into account a two story house that's 24 feet.
That would be mean FIVE terraced house's on top of one another,
that's quite some distance to pile down.
An IET carriage is 26 metres long and we are talking 35 metres (115 feet) of piling - so that's a carriage and a third.
| Re: Re-opening the Cowley branch to passenger traffic In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [368586/27074/9] Posted by Electric train at 06:16, 25th November 2025 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() |
....the other factor to aid the case will the be decarbonising fright
Had to record this typo before it got edited

If you stand at track level freight is frightening
| Man dies after being hit by car on walk to station - Maghull, 22 October 2025 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [368585/31156/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 05:13, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
From the BBC:

The incident happened on Station Road, Maghull, on 22 October
A man has died after he was hit by a car as he walked to a railway station on his way to work, police said.
The 51-year-old was walking towards Maghull railway station when he was hit by a black Range Rover Velar on Station Road, at the junction with Tailors Lane, on 22 October.
He was taken to hospital with serious injuries after the incident, which happened just before 07:00 BST, but he died on 7 November, police said.
A 64-year-old woman arrested at the scene on suspicion of causing death by careless driving and driving whilst unfit remains under investigation.
The family of the man, who is from Maghull, paid tribute to him. They said: "We are devastated by the tragic loss of life, following being hit by a car, on his regular walking journey to Maghull [Railway] Station and work. We are heartbroken that his life has been cut short and we have lost a brother, uncle, nephew and good friend."
They said he would be "forever in our hearts", and urged anyone who saw the incident to contact police.
Det Sgt Simon Duffy said: "We are determined to establish how this tragic incident occurred, and we are following numerous lines of enquiry to establish all the facts. Despite a suspect being identified, this investigation remains ongoing and we remain very keen to speak to anyone who may have witnessed the incident or was in the area at this time."
He added: "We know motorists were in the area. I would urge any drivers and pedestrians who were heading towards the nearby Maghull train station to come forward so we can establish if you may have relevant information."
He also asked people check dashcam footage "for any vital evidence which may help with our enquiries".
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [368584/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 05:05, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
Tuesday November 25
As flagged up above, but still (05:00) unreported on Journeycheck, both the first two trains are short-formed as five-car sets this morning - both 1P11 0516 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington (07:24) and 1P02 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington (08:24).
| Re: Winterstoke railway bridge, Weston super mare closed for two years. In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [368583/31150/31] Posted by infoman at 04:39, 25th November 2025 | ![]() |
Trying to put that 115 feet in to perspective.
So if we say the height of ceilings in a terraced house is eight feet
so if we take into account a two story house that's 24 feet.
That would be mean FIVE terraced house's on top of one another,
that's quite some distance to pile down.
"A bridge that has been hit 12 times by drivers over nearly two years in "avoidable" incidents has cost taxpayers £50,000 in repairs"
What a silly intro. The bridge hasn't cost taxpayers anything. Drivers who are unable to read signs have.














