| Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:02, 3rd November 2025 |     |
BBC News - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czdrp8mm6jgt?app-referrer=deep-link
Glasgow to London train derails in Cumbria - no injuries reported but 'days of disruption' expected - BBC News
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by bradshaw at 09:14, 3rd November 2025 | |
Image on X/Twitter shows derailed unit, with crash structure performing as it is designed to do.
https://x.com/rail/status/1985269697265512568?s=61&t=VlafMC5gF9tidw36b1Y8JQ
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by a-driver at 10:38, 3rd November 2025 | |
Image on X/Twitter shows derailed unit, with crash structure performing as it is designed to do.
https://x.com/rail/status/1985269697265512568?s=61&t=VlafMC5gF9tidw36b1Y8JQ
\https://x.com/rail/status/1985269697265512568?s=61&t=VlafMC5gF9tidw36b1Y8JQ
Will be interesting to see the initial findings. Other pictures suggest its only the front bogie that has derailed and there maybe some fortune that it derailed towards the 6ft and the other running line.
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by Mark A at 11:14, 3rd November 2025 | |
The derailed trains, the 04:28 from Glasgow with ~85 aboard after Carlisle, it derailed after 6:09am.
Hat-tip to the staff of the Shap Wells Hotel which was on hand to receive the passengers.
Photos show that the train came to a halt foul of the down line. A service from Manchester to Glasgow, due to pass the location at 06:20, last recorded on Realtimetrains at Oxenholme at 6:05.
Mark
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:W09849/2025-11-03/detailed#allox_id=0
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C26825/2025-11-03/detailed
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by ChrisB at 11:15, 3rd November 2025 | |
Watson says around 20 minutes later, staff told them the train hit a landslide, caused by heavy rain at the weekend.
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by GBM at 11:30, 3rd November 2025 | |
Query to a-driver, please.
How the heck do you, as a driver, deal with this?
You will be badly shaken; adrenaline flowing.
Your training says the safety of passengers and the train.
Who do you call first - as in - the train manager/guard to check on passengers; signalling centre to stop everything; call the regional operational centre; Just where do you start!
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by Oxonhutch at 13:38, 3rd November 2025 | |
My first reaction would be to get everything else stopped, especially if foul of the other running line - I believe there is an emergency GSM radio button for this. Don't know if track-circuit clips are still used on these routes but if they were, and it is still in the rules, I would get those on the fouled running line too.
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by Mark A at 14:40, 3rd November 2025 | |
Avanti ticket acceptance between Edinburgh and Kings Cross, between Carlisle and Newcastle among others, but not Carlisle-Leeds, mind.
Mark
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by ChrisB at 15:00, 3rd November 2025 | |
Quicker going Glasgow/Carlisle - Edinburgh/Newcastle and south than Carlisle/Leeds
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by IndustryInsider at 15:19, 3rd November 2025 | |
Query to a-driver, please.
How the heck do you, as a driver, deal with this?
You will be badly shaken; adrenaline flowing.
Your training says the safety of passengers and the train.
Who do you call first - as in - the train manager/guard to check on passengers; signalling centre to stop everything; call the regional operational centre; Just where do you start!
How the heck do you, as a driver, deal with this?
You will be badly shaken; adrenaline flowing.
Your training says the safety of passengers and the train.
Who do you call first - as in - the train manager/guard to check on passengers; signalling centre to stop everything; call the regional operational centre; Just where do you start!
From the relevent rule book module:
You must immediately switch on the hazard warning indication where provided.
If you cannot do this, you must display a red light forward.
You must tell the signaller about the accident, and whether the electric traction current needs to be switched off, in the quickest way possible.
You must then check:
• if any other lines are obstructed (if in doubt, treat them as obstructed), and decide the quickest way to stop any approaching trains
• the exact location of your train.
When the signaller tells you that signal protection has been provided, you must place a track-circuit operating clip on:
• every other line that is obstructed, and
• the line on which your train is standing if the whole train has been derailed.
You must carry out emergency protection if:
• the signaller cannot provide signal protection, or
• you have not been able to contact the signaller.
If you need help in carrying out emergency protection, you must reach a clear understanding with the guard or any other competent person as to which lines that person will protect.
Contacting the signaller these days means placing an REC (Rail Emergency Call) on the GSM-R which simulaneously sends a 'stop immediately' message to all other trains in the area. They then acknowledge that they've stopped and can hear the conversation between the diver who placed the REC and the signaller (and join in on that call if appropriate).
Depending on the nature of the emergency, the driver might also then have to deal with emergency alarms being pulled on the train, passengers operating egresses etc. as well as liaising with the guard (if there is one) or other members of staff on the train and potentially speaking to their control and/or the police.
| Re: Derailment of Glasgow to London train near Shap in Cumbria - 3 November 2025 Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:15, 3rd November 2025 | |
Thank you for your clear and indeed authoritative post here, IndustryInsider.
Chris from Nailsea.
